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Friday, March 6, 2009

Demo George Square Glasgow 4th March 2009

















































The wee dolly bird with the pad in her hand is Sarah from the Daily mail. She is working for forward olanning.
The big fat guy in the wheelchair is Jimmy Deuchars. Aplogies for him appearing so much.
In the first picture in the middle is Iris Gibson JP Glasgow City Councellor and supports us wholeheartedly. Iris 's son is Kenny Gibson MSP for Cunning North. Former MSPs Rosemary Byrne of Solidarity, John Swinburne Leader of The Scottish Senior Citizens Unity Party (SSCUP)
Microphone man, Eamon Kelly, Nan Wilson, Jimmy Crombie and others.

last years demonstration at the Scottish Parliament.

Thursday, March 5, 2009

Grandparents do have a role to play

the Scotsman and Edinburgh Evening News

http://news.scotsman.com/opinion/-Gina-Davidson-Grandparents-do.5041275.jp#3817986

Published Date: 05 March 2009
By GINA DAVIDSON

I HAVE probably never thanked them properly, but the truth is that life would be a lot harder without my children's grandparents. While I might not believe in the policy that chocolate buttons cure all ills – a grandparental prerogative apparently – I wouldn't be able to work if it wasn't for them pitching in to pick up their beloved grandchildren from nursery three days a week.

And whenever the need to pretend that I still have a social life becomes too much to bear, at least one grandparent is happy to sit in on a Saturday night watching Dinosapien and Ben 10 and dishing out milk and animal-shaped biscuitsWhat's more,

the relationship my children have with their three grandparents is a wonderful thing to behold. They just love them for all the fun – and sometimes lack of discipline – they provide in their lives. I really cannot imagine how much more stressful, on so many levels, life would be without them being involved in our family.And yet in these days of the so-called "broken society", having an extended family to help pitch in and take care of the kids is becoming extremely unusual. Which is why, when there are grandparents around to offer physical, emotional or even financial aid to struggling parents, it seems odd that there seems to be some kind of official blacklisting of them as individuals who can help.Yesterday there was a mass protest by grandparents in Glasgow's George Square registering their disgust at the fact that they are not allowed to look after their own flesh and blood should the need arise. Organised by the pressure group Grandparents Apart UK, the rally was protesting against local authority social work department adoption policies which seem to leave grans and grandads out in the cold.

The most recent case in Edinburgh is that of the two children being adopted by a gay couple, despite the grandparents – who had looked after them for years because their mother is a recovering heroin addict – registering their dismay at the need for adoption and at the fact that the children wouldn't be raised in a conventional family. The grandparents claim that they were bullied into agreeing with this option as they were threatened with never seeing the kids again.If true, it's a shocking allegation against the Edinburgh social workers involved in the case, but it would seem that it's just the tip of the iceberg.

One Edinburgh grandfather who is involved with the pressure group, told me this week how he wrote a letter of concern to the city's social work department about the treatment of his grandson by his mother. He was concerned that due to her history of mental health problems, there were times when the child was at threat of physical abuse. He was, he says, prompted to do this because his grandson had called his father to claim his mum was hitting him.Social services duly acted, visiting the mother at home – but during that visit revealed to her they had received a complaint from the grandad and what his allegations were. He was unsurprisingly then contacted by the mother (an allegedly foul-mouthed and abusive conversation) and then by letter from social services saying they had investigated and were happy with what they saw. And yet they never asked him for any information, nor did they get in touch with the child's father (who apparently is constantly in court trying to get access to see his son) to find out what their "evidence" was.This grandfather admits that there is no desire to remove the child from his mother, that she is not "completely hopeless" as a parent, but that they just wish to be more involved in the child's life – but she makes it difficult. Going to social work for help, he says, has only made it more difficult and he hasn't seen his grandson for seven months.

Jimmy Deuchars, organiser of the rally, says such cases are all too common and that in a lot of cases social workers don't even speak to grandparents at all. Quite why this should be so is hard to understand, given that Scots law, the UN Convention on Human Rights and the European Court of Human Rights all recognise children's rights to benefit from the care of the wider family. A report by the Centre for Research on Families and Relationships – based on the Growing Up in Scotland survey (GUS) – also showed that grandparents are extremely important in what they can provide in terms of support for most parents. All parents need family (or friends) to call on at times.

Grandparents are crucial when parents work, or for single parents who are trying to cope on their own. Those who are not working and have less time pressures often have financial pressures and a different juggling act. Again, grandparents' help can be key. Surely it is time that the rights of grandparents be enshrined in a similar way as that of their grandchildren? Their voices – and those of the extended family – need to be heard if our broken society is ever to move towards being repaired.

The Sunday Express by Nicola Barry.

Shut out and forgotten

The Sunday Express, Nicola Barry

More and more grandparents are cut off from their grandchildren by divorce, family rows or, more unusually, when the children are taken into care. As Nicola Barry discovers, many never see them again.


BACK in September 1993, Hugh and Margaret Rennie had their six-year-old (granddaughter to stay. When they discovered she weighed just 3Olbs, they decided toapply for custody. After a long court battle, which ended up costing the Ayrshire couple £20,000 they succeeded. That child is now 21.

Then in 1999. out of the blue. A social worker from Slough. Berkshire, informed the Rennies that their four other grandchildren. three girls and a boy. all under nine. had been horrifically abused and neglected.

The couple was asked if they could provide the children with a home.

While they were informed if they "stayed in the background that everything would be alright”, a year later the youngsters were taken into care - all to foster parents

All these years later, the Rennies say, without hesitation, that the situation has "ruined then" lives".

We ail know that the break-up of any family is messy at the best of times. No matter how hard couples try to resolve their differences, it is rare for access arrangements ever togo smoothly. But hidden behind the legal complexities and dramas played out, grandparents are almost always forgotten.

Many grandparents act as child minders for their children's offspring, in many cases, up to five days a week. Yet grandparents have no automatic legal right to see their grandchildren when couples separate. In fact. they have no rights at all.

Divorce and separation have hit them hard. With more and more going to court in an attempt to maintain a relationship with their grandchildren. This can be an expensive andpainful procedure. In the case of Hugh, 61, and Margaret, 64, it has been both. The Rennies insist lies have been told about them, with the social workers involved told by their daughter that they are unsuitable guardians - nothing could be further from the truth.

SOME parents bring false accusations of abuse, and even where these are discounted by the court, the hostility between family members may remain so great that the court decides it is in the best interests of the child not to grant contact with the grandparents.

"First of all a guardian ad litem, acting for the children, arrived at our house and explained his role in the proceedings," says Margaret. "He stayed for approximately threehours and took no notes. Before leaving he said he had arranged for the children to come the following day and stay.

“The children duly arrived for a week's holiday and returned home to their respective carers, having had great time.
"After that we maintained weekly contact with the children by telephone – arranged through the social worker.

"We had a great relationship with the Slough social worker, right up until July, 2000, when someone else took over."

Between August 30 and September 2, a psychologist came to assess the couple, their son and his then fiancée, now his wile After one more assessment, all contact with thechildren was stopped.

"We did not know at that point that Slough Social Services had already got adoptive parents in place for the two youngest children," says Margaret.

"On September 8, at our request, the new social worker came to the house and outlinedwhat had been happening. She stayed for about two hours but did not take any notes

"Since then we have heard nothing from Slough Social Services about the children. Wehave been told we have to forget them We have that in writing.

"It was only later that we discovered we were entitled to view all reports held by the localauthority on us. To date, all our requests have been ignored."

They also point out that only one person - the psychologist - carried out assessments onthem, yet the guardian ad litem and social worker came, independently, to the sameconclusion. "The judge made his decision on that one assessment," Margaret says. The Rennies asked to see the papers but were only given a copy of one assessment carriedout by the psychologist.

"Taking into account solicitor fees, court and travel costs; we have paid out approximately£20.000.' Hugh says. "But like a lot of grandparents, for us it is not about the money. We only wish to know the children are being well looked after and we want to see them again."
THE Rennies case is not untypical. So many extended family members endure the breakdown of a whole structure. Aunts, uncles. and cousins can be involved - which is where Grandparents Apart UK comes in.

A charity run by grandparents for grandparents, it now has branches through-out the UK and a telephone helpline.

There is a lot of ignorance out there. For example, with an unmarried couple, the only person with legal rights over any children is the parent who has custody of them.
Nine times out of ten it is the mother. The majority of grandparents who are prevented from seeing their grandchildren are from the paternal family.

Jimmy Deuchars 64, who manages The grandparents Apart UK says “it is not unusual for a mother to refuse to allow the father and his family to see the children.

As things stand, grandparents are guilty until proved innocent. There are no automatic rights. If the parents have fallen out with you then you may not get to see your grandchildren.

Jimmy, a former taxi driver, says mediators resolved his own situation. His daughter – who had two children – died of breast cancer. Jimmy and his wife Margaret looked after the baby while their daughter’s husband cared for the older child.
But the husband met someone else who didn’t want us to have access so we called in family mediation says jimmy. Now he sees the children regularly. “if mediation was brought in early enough,” jimmy adds, “you can often prevent molehills turning into mountains.”

We have heard nothing from social services about our grandchildren. We have been told we have to forget them – and we have that in writing.'

BBC recording of Grandparents Apart UK

The BBC in Glasgow has recorded a ½ hour programme this Monday about the reasons why we set up the Grandparents Apart UK in Glasgow.

I will be broadcast on radio Scotland on Friday 27 th March 11.30am A programme caled Battlelines By Shareen Nanjiani.


Jimmy Deuchars

Protester demand grey rights. Daily Mail.

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The Daily Mail 5th March 2009.

Protesters demand grey rights

GRANDPARENTS from across Scotland yesterday gathered to demand better access rights to their grand- children when families break down. Dozens attended a protest in Glasgow's George Square to high- light the issue.

Organisers claim that grandparents frequently lose out when a marriage or relationship involving youngsters fails. And campaigners say that social workers often put children into care when they would be better off living with their grandparents.

Jimmy Deuchars, of pressure group Grandparents Apart UK, said: 'Grandparents are at the very bottom of the list when itcomes to rights. 'We're regarded as trouble- makers if we say a word against anything that is happening.'

The Executive insists that the decision to remove a child from their natural family is never taken lightly and officials always con-sider carers in the wider family.

But John Swinburne, former MSP for the Scottish Senior Citi-zens Unity Party, said: 'In the past, if children were taken away from their parents, the first thing that would happen was that they'd be given to the grandparents. 'There was always an unofficial network of kinship carers. It's deplorable that any child should be deprived of the chance to seetheir own grandparents.'


Sarah, The reporter for The Daily Mail send this was being used for further planning. That is a future programme.

Childcare failure put thousands more at risk.

The Times

March 5, 2009

Childcare failures put thousands more at risk, Audit Commission reveals

Children's services was the only area where more councils declined than improved
Tens of thousands of children are at risk of abuse and neglect, with a quarter of councils providing inadequate or minimal services for young people, the Audit Commission reveals today.
Even wealthy authorities are not immune to the widespread deterioration in children’s services. The rating of Surrey, one of the country’s most affluent councils, fell to the bottom of the local government watchdog’s league table after failing its children.

The performance league tables show that the standard of children’s services fell across England last year. Only 13 councils showed improvement; the ratings of 22 fell. Surrey was joined at the bottom of the table by Haringey, which was embroiled in the Baby P scandal last year; Doncaster, where seven children have died in three years through abuse or neglect; and Milton Keynes, which was criticised for its poor education and complacent management.
Forty of the 149 councils assessed by the children’s watchdog Ofsted provided either inadequate or the bare minimum of children’s services, which covers education, social care and child protection. The number achieving the full four stars fell from twelve in 2007 to nine in 2008. Children’s services was the only area where more councils declined than improved.
A common weakness was failing to implement legislation requiring all staff working with children to have criminal record checks. Several councils were also slow to put children on the at-risk register, to assign a social worker or to place a young person with an adopted or foster parent, said a spokesman for Ofsted.

In other areas, education results were poor, too few children went on to further education or there were high levels of teenage pregnancy.
Christine Gilbert, the Ofsted Chief Inspector, said that the worst-performing councils were improving services but that she could not guarantee children’s safety until they were reassessed.
Doncaster, where a government review has been ordered, said that the picture had changed significantly since Ofsted finished its review last March. “We’re in a very different place,” said Paul Gray, the director of children’s services, who was recruited last year. “There’s been a substantial increase in the number of social workers and we’ve cleared the backlog of cases.”

Claire Kober, the leader of Haringey, said: “We accept that things went badly wrong with child protection. We are committed to making things right.”
Surrey County Council has taken Ofsted to a judicial review over its rating. It pointed out that many of its other scores were high. “Children are better protected than 12 months ago,” said a spokesman.

Isobel McCall, the leader of Milton Keynes Council, attacked the Audit Commission’s “bizarre” methodology. “If you look at our other scores we have had our other services rated two or three stars,” she said. “Our rank overall is harsh and does not reflect where we are overall.” She was annoyed that the rating blurred the distinction between education and child protection, which was rated adequate.

The comprehensive performance assessment was introduced in 2002 to measure the effectiveness and value for money of local authorities. The areas assessed include housing, culture, the environment, benefits, adult social care, use of resources and corporate management. Use of resources and children’s services are weighted more heavily than the other categories.

Wednesday, March 4, 2009

Congratulations

Congratulations and well done on the demo today, I would like to thank everyone who took part,one day I might be able to tell my beautiful granddaughter all about it.

Monday, March 2, 2009

to be a grandparent

To be a grandparent is not an easy job. Your grandchildren are counting on you to love them unconditionally to a degree that their parents may not be able to.. They're counting on you to listen, really listen, without judging right or wrong. It is often assumed that you have no life of your own, and that you only exist to be called on when you are needed. This of course is not true. At the same time do not miss this opportunity that you have been given, a chance for a relationship with the next generation.
© Family Friend Poems

Sunday, March 1, 2009

praise from Australia

Hi James,

On behalf of the parents and grandparents of Australia, we wish you well with the protest and salute your determination and resolve to bring to a halt, the stealing of our children and grandchildren, by State sponsored agencies and bureaucracies.

OUR CHILDREN ARE REMOVED FROM LOVING PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS, BY AGENDA DRIVEN ZEALOTS, WHO BULLY AND MANIPULATE THE CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES IN ORDER TO ENFORCE THEIR OWN TWISTED VIEW OF WHAT THEY CONSIDER TO BE BEST FOR OTHER PEOPLES CHILDREN.

BABY P IN THE U.K http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/baby-p/ DID’NT FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS, HE DISAPPEARED INTO THE FRIGHTENING BLACK HOLE OF THE FAMILY JUSTICE SYSTEM.

UNFORTUNATELY HE IS ONE OF MILLIONS OF CHILDREN AROUND THE GLOBE, WHO HAVE BEEN FORCIBLY REMOVED FROM THE PROTECTIVE LOVE AND CARE OF HALF OF THEIR BIOLOGICAL FAMILIES.

THEIR PARENTS WERE SUCKED INTO THE FINANCIAL AND EMOTIONAL BLACK HOLE, AND THEIR CHILDREN FORCIBLY REMOVED AND LEFT IN THE CARE OF ONE PARENT WHO IS GIVEN TOTAL POWER AND CONTROL OVER EVERY PARENTING ASPECT OF THE COUPLE’S CHILDREN.

THESE CHILDREN DISAPPEAR INTO THE UNPROTECTED BLACK HOLE OF PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL TORTURE, AT THE VERY HANDS OF THOSE WHO ARE ENTRUSTED TO CARE FOR THEIR HEALTH AND WELL BEING.

EVIDENCE OF THE CUSTODIAL CHILD PROTECTOR’S DYSFUNCTIONAL UNSUITABILITY AS A PROTECTIVE PARENT IS IGNORED, WHILE THE OTHER BIOLOGICAL PARENT IS EXCLUDED FROM TAKING ANY PART IN THE PROTECTION AND PARENTING PROCESS.

UNFORTUNATELY OUR LEGISLATORS ARE DRAWN FROM AN IGNORANT COMMUNITY, WHICH STILL BELIEVES “THE BEST INTEREST OF CHILDREN” IS BEST SERVED BY THIS DRACONIAN INTERNATIONAL FAMILY JUSTICE INDUSTRY, WHICH IS WREAKING SUCH HAVOC UPON OUR UNSUSPECTING COMMUNITIES.

FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL CRINGE WHEN THEY READ HOW FOR DECADES, MILLIONS OF CHILDREN WERE REMOVED FROM PERFECTLY NORMAL, RESPONSIBLE AND LOVING PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS, BECAUSE THE INTERNATIONAL FAMILY JUSTICE INDUSTRY AND THEIR MERCENARIES, CONSIDERED THAT NOT TO DO SO, WOULD UPSET DYSFUNCTIONAL AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY DISTURBED CUSTODIAL PARENTS AND THIS WOULD THEREFORE NEGATIVELY IMPACT ON THE CHILDREN.

THE SHEER ENORMITY OF THIS WORLD WIDE PROBLEM IS ALARMING, AND THE LEVEL OF CORRUPTION, IGNORANCE AND INCOMPETENCE OF MANY OF THOSE INVOLVED WITH THE OPERATIONS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FAMILY JUSTICE INDUSTRY, BEGGARS BELIEF.

HAVING SPOKEN TO REPRESENTATIVES OF MANY OF THE WORLD’S LEADING VICTIM GROUPS AND TO THOSE THAT SUPPORT THEIR CALL FOR CHANGE, I AM HUMBLED BY THEIR RESTRAINED DEMEANOUR IN THE FACE OF SUCH CONCERTED ATTACKS UPON THEIR FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS AND THOSE OF THEIR CHILDREN.

NO CIVILISED SOCIETY SHOULD TOLERATE SUCH ASSAULT ON THE BASIC CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHTS OF ITS POPULATION, BY STATE SPONSORED AGENCIES AND BUREAUCRACIES.

THE PROBLEM WILL ONLY BE RESOLVED, WHEN BOTH RESPONSIBLE BIOLOGICAL PARENTS ARE GIVEN THE LEGAL PARENTING RIGHT, PRIORITY AND OPPORTUNITY, TO REMAIN INVOLVED IN THEIR CHILDREN’S LIFE, DURING THEIR FORMATIVE YEARS OF CHILDHOOD.

IF WE CONSIDER OURSELVES TO BE A CIVILISED SOCIETY, YET CONTINUE TO ALLOW OUR GOVERNMENTS TO IGNORE THIS URGENT ISSUE, THEN WE ARE ALL COMPLICIT IN THE CULTURAL GENOCIDE OF OUR CULTURE.

Peter van de Voorde
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Grey protesters hold rally to stop ‘forced adoption’ of grandchildren

By Jasper Hamill, http://www.sundayherald.com/misc/print.php?artid=2492531

ELDERLY ACTIVISTS will stage a protest in Glasgow this week to demand that no child should be put into care if they can live with their grandparents.
Grandparents Apart UK believe that social workers are too willing to place children with strangers. The group's "war cry" is the recent case of an Edinburgh child sent to live with a gay couple - but they insist their grievance is not homophobic.

They have previously campaigned for automatic access rights for grandparents after custody battles and were involved in writing the Grandparents' Charter, which sets out the rights of grandparents but is not legally binding.

Grandparents Apart urged the SNP to listen to their demands and warned failure to do so could cost them the "grey vote" at the next election.
Jimmy Deuchars, manager of Grandparents Apart UK, said: "We're challenging the social services's and the government's policies regarding children and adoption, particularly when grandchildren are adopted to strangers. Social services used to be an organisation that cared and protected, but now they snatch the children and adopt them forcibly, alienating them from their family. Evidence from our members indicates that if grandparents then put up a fuss, they are threatened with the removal of all contact rights. What sort of a democracy is this?"
In response to a questionnaire, 33.6% of Grandparents Apart's 500 members said they had experienced "falsified" reports from the social services, 43.5% said they had been bypassed by social services on child welfare issues, 79.4% said their grandchildren had been used as "weapons" against them in arguments, and 78.6% felt their grandchild had been "brainwashed" against them.

The daughter of one member of Deuchars's organisation, who would not give his name, died of a drug overdose, leaving three children. Two were taken in by family members but one was taken into care aged 10 and his grandfather did not see him for another seven years.
When the grandfather finally managed to get a meeting, the boy said social workers had told him his grandfather did not want to see him. His hair was matted, he was dirty and he was dressed badly.

In care, the boy attended five separate schools, lived in eight foster homes and said he had had soapy water poured into his mouth for swearing. By the time of his standard grade exams, his self-esteem was so battered he didn't feel "good enough" to take them.
The grandfather said: "You've heard that children in care are low achievers, that they end up running with gangs to take the place of their families. It's all true. That happened to my boy."
Since the two got together, the young man has become an apprentice mechanic and is more optimistic about the future.
Kathleen Marshall, Scotland's Commissioner for Children and Young People, favours children staying with their families. She said Scottish law, the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, and European Court of Human Rights case law, all recognise children's rights to benefit from the care of their wider family where it is in their interests.
She said: "Courts should look to the child's extended family before considering placing a child with strangers. Grandparents can also apply to the courts for contact with their grandchildren and the court will decide what is in the child's best interests, taking account of the child's views, where the child is able to form them and wants to give them."

The Scottish government and children's minister Adam Ingram said in a letter to Deuchars he was "very aware of the important role that grandparents can play in development of young people". He denied social services had a policy of forced adoption.
A spokesman said: "The removal of any child from their natural parents is always a difficult decision and one that is never taken lightly. We firmly believe that, if a child cannot live with their birth parents, the first option should be to consider the ability and capacity of kinship carers in the wider family."
Related Links
www.grandparentsapart.co.uk